Curse

Karlos · Dec 27, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

The bounties have two limitations, both limitations were known since day 1 of the preview. Limitation one is sunspear rank, limitation two is your level vs monster level. i.e. if the highest level monsters of the species in the bounty are too love for your level to gain XP from them, the scout will not give you the bounty. This is why you can take the skale and insect bounty in Issnur Ises but not the Plant and Corsair ones. So, getting too high in level was a mistake if you still needed the two quests that require you to achieve a specific rank in the Sunspear track.

I honestly do not see this as a situation ANet even needs to address. No offense to the original poster. The two restrictions on bounties make sense. If the allowed level 20 chraracters to take bounties killing level 2 monsters, think of the abuses.

Earth · Dec 27, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Splatter, if you message me IG, I might be able to take you to Jokanur Diggings, and Blacktide Den. I'm not sure, though, it's only a guess. Just add me to your friends list and whisper me.

MMSDome · Dec 27, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

this just tells you that you shouldnt be ferrying your way around.

ducktape · Dec 27, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

the simplest fix would be to set the farming based on your sunspear rank.

ie: you can collect points for lvl 1-3 on the first few maps and for rank 4-5 you have to farm in the keys, on the main land anything up to torment lands would be for lvls 6-7 and tormanet should last until maxed sunspear rank.

Since this would fix every problem there is with sunspear points, this has my vote!

Splatter Mcnasty · Dec 27, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

I love how people criticize the way I choose to play, and comment on how this is such a well-known problem. I had never heard about it, nor read about it in these forums, so I posted this to warn other people who might choose to take the same route i did.

But, as Ensign confirmed, there is no way for me to continue with that character, so i deleted him and started over...no big loss.

Venus was her name · Dec 27, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

the simple solution is stop the consulate docks ferry (for max armour).

its clearly not supposed to happen, its an exploit.

and it messes up the game.

Horseman Of War · Dec 27, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

just say no to ferries.

AOD_EaSyKiLL · Dec 27, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Ferry to Docks is no more an exploit than running to droks.

The only people that can do it are people that have other characters that are well into the game. It is totally useless to the first time player because they wont have the money or the materials needed to benefit from it.

I don't see any harm in it. The best fix would be to set the bounties on sunspear level as mentioned before, or add enough quests to the game to cover the required sunspear promotions without doing any bounties.

CyberNigma · Dec 28, 2006, 12:11 AM // 00:11

First, other people being ferried to the docks did not screw up my paragon as he played through the game normally.

Second, you can get into Blacktide Den the back way (go through the First City and enter through there) unless they changed that. If you are level 20, then there's not much reason why you shouldn't be on-par with the foreigners coming in. If they don't need that stuff, then I don't think you should either. I don't know why people think it screws up the game by doing stuff like that. It's not like they can do the Docks mission (as it will not let you until you progress there). Adding new quests would seem ok, but yes the easiest for them is to prevent people from ferrying I suppose. Who knows, maybe there's someone that thinks Elona sucks and just wants to take their dervish over and do Tyria or Cantha.

ubermancer · Dec 28, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Ignore the holier then thou 'ferries are the devil's work' people, as they must still be playing through the game for the first time and find its plot absolutely enthralling.

Wretchman Drake · Dec 28, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by Splatter Mcnasty

ANet: If you ever read this, you need to do the following: add a few more quests in Kamadan which have Sunspear promotion point rewards, or stop the ferrying so that nobody else hits this wall....

First off, Anet doesn't NEED to do anything because it's your fault for cheating yourself out of the campaign. We should watch and clean up from our own mistakes, Anet won't do this simply because you exploited the game and cheated. Play through the damn game the way it's designed and meant to.

That's what you deserve for just blowing past a campaign you're supposed to do first. I think it's funny people who just go past the game to power level and play cheaply get abuse like this. Now have fun, uh, not doing Nightfall!

Critical Cal · Dec 28, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

What all of you are forgetting is that some of us don't want to repeat the "Grind" of a storyline 10x with 10 seperate characters!

Antheus · Dec 28, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Critical Cal

What all of you are forgetting is that some of us don't want to repeat the "Grind" of a storyline 10x with 10 seperate characters!

Why would you make 10 new characters in Nightfall? There's only two new classes (the topic here only applies to newly created characters). If 10 characters is too much, don't have that many. Who's forcing you into grind? The Evil Anet? Ah, exploit away then, show the oppressors who the boss is.

And the ferry has nothing to do with grind. The whole storyline, as well as the mandatory quests are still there.

And last thing here is, there's about zero need to powerlevel anything. XP gains are high enough, as well as sunspear rewards.

natuxatu · Dec 28, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

How does someone know they are "cheating" if they can clearly get a ferry. Sorry but it's something major that needs to be fixed by A.Net. After all if you can be ran somewhere.. is that cheating? There is hardly a difference. Especially since Ferrying in Cantha wasn't cheating.. not everyone is going to know that they're not suppose to.

snikerz · Dec 28, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14

@ OP

i had the very same experience last month, i lvl'd up in cantha because 3k for a 1 minute quest is good way to lvl up your heros and yourself.

anyway apon reaching lvl20, i talked to the bounty guy outside sunspear great hall, and he wouldnt let me take it, i had 0-10 sunspear points, i cant remember exactially, apon almost deleting character as i had no way to advance, i found a bounty that could earn me mass amounts of sunspear points in a short amount of time.

The west portal @ Jokanur Diggings: Fahranur, The First City
take the bounty soon as u walk outside, turn right, path till it leads you to the place where theres 50 drakes all compacted in tight area, i was a ele at the time with rodgorts, and i distoryed all them in one hit.

I hope someone reads this, and if they made the mistake that the OP and I made, they can carry on.

oh and reasons to ferry to cantha/tyria is:

get elite skills(elemental attunement etc), metior shower, rodgorts
aquire olias hero(giving him lvl28 flesh golum helps)
power leveling through canthan quests

Karlos · Dec 28, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Yes, this could work, but if I recall correctly, it does not work after level 19. I could be wrong, but back in the preview it did not.

Arkantos · Dec 28, 2006, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

First off, Anet doesn't NEED to do anything because it's your fault for cheating yourself out of the campaign. We should watch and clean up from our own mistakes, Anet won't do this simply because you exploited the game and cheated. Play through the damn game the way it's designed and meant to.

That's what you deserve for just blowing past a campaign you're supposed to do first. I think it's funny people who just go past the game to power level and play cheaply get abuse like this. Now have fun, uh, not doing Nightfall!

Well, it's NOT against any rules, and it's NOT an exploit/bug, so ANet SHOULD do something since there obviously letting it happen.

mr_groovy · Dec 28, 2006, 08:08 AM // 08:08

Just do the mission. Get the bounties on the mainland. Yes it's that easy ^^.

Keira Darkwind · Dec 28, 2006, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by mr_groovy

Just do the mission. Get the bounties on the mainland. Yes it's that easy ^^.

You need 170 sunspear points to be able to do Jokanur Diggings. I don't think you can do the Docks mission until you have completed the prior missions.

Chrono Re delle Ere · Dec 28, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

I don't think that anet will fix it as there shouldn't be power levelling and ferrys.....they will never fix it lol! It's not their fault :P